but if you are born existing with male reproductive organs than you are not female and it sounds like surgery can't really turn you female, it can only help to disguise that you're male. what certain life are you forced into for having male or female reproductive organs? i wouldn't say you are only your body and nothing more, and i don't think people are saying that, in my opinion you are born in your body and yeah that's a lot of who you are but you aren't only your body, you are your personality and likes/dislikes and hobbies and interests, etc. you can express yourself without wanting to be something/someone you're not. i don't mean to be rude but if a man who gets surgery to "prove" he's a woman and he still has his natural male hormones and/or organs in him, or he does not have all the natural hormones and organs of a woman, he's really not a woman at all. if a man can just decide he's a woman, can't i decide i'm the queen of Australia and Antarctica? or decide i'm some random kids' mom and take them away from their family because i feel like i was meant to have them? i know those are completely different things, but both could easily happen, and also could have already. if surgeons don't add new organs to trans people's body, do you know what they do do to try and change someone's sex? how do you "change your sex" without actually changing your sex?
@TKEStrong3 true but that doesn’t mean that you should be forced into a certain life or perceived as one or another just for existing with male or female reproductive organs. Thats like saying I am my body and my physical appearance and nothing more, or like saying a transgender woman is only valid after she has a surgery to prove it, and that doesn’t make any sense. Also, if someone believes believe one needs surgery to validate gender then that completely dismisses everyone that is apart from the gender binary. (This isn’t meant to come across rude im not sure if it does, and again, this is just my beliefs)
@TKEStrong3 So your assigned gender at birth is the one where the doctor looks at you and says “you have male parts” or “you have female parts” and then you’re marked as that gender and you’re given roles by society. However, I believe that it has nothing to do with your body and has more to do with your mind and soul and how you feel. People use the terms gender and sex interchangeably and I don’t agree with that. The word gender does refer to male and female but it also refers to many other identities on the gender spectrum, like non-binary :]. The word sex refers to male and female and that’s your biology and chromosomes and stuff.
yeah organ transplants are similar, but then you're just getting a different heart/liver/kidney or whatever than you had originally. if you're trying to go from male to female you would be having organs put into your body that weren't there before. Getting a heart transplant is getting the same kind of organ put into the same place, getting sex-changing surgery is putting a new organ where there wasn't one before. lol "sex reassignment surgery" and "gender affirmation surgery" aren't any shorter. how does gender have nothing to do with your body when the word "gender" refers to male and female, which depends your body?
@TKEStrong3 that makes sense, I guess another thing you could better relate it to is organ transplants. And it’s called “sex reassignment surgery” or “gender affirmation surgery” or lots of people just call it “bottom surgery”. It’s not actually gender changing tho, because gender has nothing to do with your body, so surgery can’t change that! The correct terms would be changing sex or transsexual. (But lots of people have different beliefs this is just mine 🙂)
@Kiwi_Art_2 i guess amputation makes sense to me, as there's no organs-swapping involved-just bone, muscle, skin, tissue, basically. i've never seen an amputation on a human but all it really is is chopping off a limb to keep someone alive. Also, people can loose limbs/fingers/toes by accident and survive, then it's like a cut you might get; it heals over eventually because your body knows how to heal itself. There's a very big difference between cutting something OFF and cutting something OPEN then messing around with what's inside and hoping nothing goes wrong. lol what i meant by "stabbing holes in people" is that you need someplace too bleed out of, if you're a guy getting a gender-altering surgery, so the surgeon would be cutting holes in people, i just don't think it would work very well to do that. i bet you could find information on exactly how amputations are done, as they have been proven possible and effective. (now i'm curious🙂) what is the name of the gender changing surgery? cuz i feel like it's actual name would be faster to write lol
@TKEStrong3 I’ve heard people from the transgender community talk about it. I just don’t know exactly how it’s preformed. Same with an amputation lol I have no clue how it’s done but I know it’s works. And who is stabbing holes in people…?
@Kiwi_Art_2 if you aren't sure how the surgery is performed how do you know it works/is effective? in my opinion it just doesn't seem like a good idea to be stabbing holes in people....?
@TKEStrong3 honestly I don’t know, I don’t feel confident enough in my knowledge to explain it correctly 😂 but it’s really so interesting, like the way that a baby grows in the womb, and how our bodies know to regenerate when we are hurt, and how (like you said) organs all have their place and fit together perfectly… I want to study it :] and to answer your question, I don’t know anyone who has had the surgery but I’m sure that you could find information on it free online :}
@Kiwi_Art_2 you say men who get surgery can have periods. will you explain the surgery? HOW does that work, I'm fascinated by the way bodies work internally, and because i've seen many animals cut up and how their organs are all where they are supposed to be, fitting together perfectly, i don't understand how a human could be given a successful "gender-changing" surgery to exchange organs or whatever and then be fully a different gender, with no trace of original biological gender. or, do you know someone who got that surgery and can explain it to me?
