Am I a bad person? (LGBTQ+ acceptance discussion) ❤️ page 4
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skytech
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2 months ago by skytech
I don’t hate them*
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skytech
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by skytech
@Dis_abled We don’t pick our gender, God does
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Dis_abled
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by Dis_abled
@skytechActually, we do pick our gender. Gender is something we all pick, like how some people are trans or how others picked the same gender as their sex. Making them cisgender. I'm not cis, and that's fine. We pick our gender but we are unable to determine our sex. Our sex is determined by the number of x and y chromosomes we have. So it determines the type of body we have, but we all pick out gender. And our gender, is not in fact "what's between our legs" that's just our sex. And it only determines our body type, nothing more, nothing less. ❤️ |
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skytech
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by skytech
Okay, it’s matter of opinion (no offense) but that’s okay you don’t have to have the same opinion as me, I’ll go away now.
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slin
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by slin
@skytech its ok for everyone to have their own values and beliefs, but you don't have to bring religion into everything. @Dis_abled is an amazing person and friend of mine, and shouldn't be invalidated for no reason. They get to chose who they want to be, and that's no anyone's opinion or right to tell them the opposite. It's really not anyone's place to, and if you don't agree, please just move on. I think this conversation has got a bit out of hand, but in the end all I wish is for everyone to be kind to each other, no matter their beliefs.
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skytech
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by skytech
I’m not saying he’s bad but no amount of good works can cleanse sin, and please don’t text me again, because I’m not going to be in this forum topic anymore.
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by Dis_abled
Alright, have a good day ❤️ And thank you Slin, your a great friend too 😊
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by Dis_abled
Selah_Ross Respect to you, and you bring up some good points! ❤️
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by Dis_abled
@Selah_Ross
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by swimmer1
@Selah_Ross amen sister!! ✝️🩷🩷
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by _Ederle_
The fact that you can reflect on yourself and realize these things already shows that you are a good person. Personally, I feel that no one’s background, religion, or sexuality really matters as long as we are all respectful and kind to each other. Those are the least interesting things about a person, so it’s good to get to know them before you decide whether or not you like them. I think it’s really nice and admirable of you to look past what you have been taught and be accepting of the LGBTQ+ community. It shows you have a great character (:
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by swimmer1
@slin a lot of people have been telling me that I don’t have to bring religion into everything. But, as a Christian, I depend on God everyday. I believe that he created me and everything else so he deserves the respect. (At least. I believe he deserves our trust and much more but for the sake of what I’m saying I’ll leave it at that.) I believe that religion has to do with everything, and whatever conversation I’m in, can eventually be led back to God. Therefore, I like to bring up God in these controversial situations. also, I don’t know where you live but in America we have freedom of speech, so I can say what I believe, and you can say what you believe, and you can mind your own business (respectfully). You don’t have to tell me what I can and can’t say.
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slin
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by slin
@swimmer1 I was addressing skytech specifically not everyone in general, thanks!
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by BabyWren12
Yeah, this is something that confused me for a long time too because isn’t it just love? Also some animals naturally mate with others of the same sex in the wild. so I did quite a bit of research and here is what I’ve found. (with biblical evidence)Also I would like to preface this by saying that I accept everyone’s choice, I don’t necessarily agree with it but so long as your not hurting anyone else its your personal choice and I am not going to interfere with that or be rude to you for that. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ and it wont stop me from loving you. (@Selah_Ross said it well) Anyways Here’s an analogy I thought of… (btw its not perfect obviously but it works to get my point across) Eating is good. We need food in order to live and nourishment is good. But junk food isn’t. It wont nourish us and is for the most part not beneficial for our health, but we still may want to eat it sometimes. But here’s the thing, say you have to choose 1 meal to eat for the rest of your life. You need something balanced, like a chicken salad or smth. It has protein vegetables etc. All the things we need to live. But if you choose junk food you wont be sustained. You wont get what you need and will be unhealthy. Now translate that to relationships. When looking for a romantic relationship as a christian we should not be just looking for a bf/gf we need to be looking for a husband/wife. (Cant find an exact verse but i believe its repeated multiple times) And that person needs to be able to sustain us and fulfill the role that is required of them in a relationship. Genesis 2:18 “It is not good for the man to be alone, I will make him a helper who is just right for him” This is a very important verse for my perspective because it specifically shows that a man needs a woman in order to be fulfilled. There is a very long extended metaphor throughout the bible about the church being the wife of God but this can also give this quite a bit of insight in to how a relationship that honors God should be, such as Ephesians 5:21-33. Theres also more instructions on marriage in 1 Corinthians 7, 1 Peter 3:1-7, Colossians 3:18-19 and more. But what these all agree on is that there are roles for men in relationships and there are roles for women. (In order to have good God honoring relationship) and you cannot fulfill these roles with two wives or two husbands. Two husbands are both meant to lead and two wives are both meant to submit so it just doesnt work out. And it also isnt as God intended it to be. He made the household to be made up of husband, wife, child(ren). Which leads me to the physical aspects too. No man can get pregnant and no woman can get pregnant without a man (outside of IVF which still uses a man and is a whole other christian question) but part of the reason for relationships is to multiply and be fruitful and bring more children into the kingdom of God, Genesis 1:27-28 (and I believe there is others too) So thats my perspective, I believe that that attraction is a temptation from the devil, like lying, cheating, etc., in order to bring us further from God in relationships where you cannot fulfill each other as God intended. It is human to feel those things but you shouldn’t give in and do you really want to make your temptation to sin part of your identity? I dont think i explained it super eloquently but its super late at night here so if anyone has anything they want to add/correct go ahead! |
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by swimmer1
@BabyWren12 AMEN SISTER!!!! Preach it
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Selah_Ross
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by Selah_Ross
@BabyWren12 yeah! Some people have said, "i cant help doing *insert something not completely right* i try to stop but i cant. Pretend the above example was gossiping. If you really wanted to, you could stop it. It's abt self control, and knowing what you should do, not always what you want to do. I never try to be mean when discussing things, It's always good to have other opinions, but thats my opinion. ❤️
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by Selah_Ross
@BobTheCat_ @slin @Dis_abled may i make some things clear please? Y'all need to stop saying homophobia. Phobia means "fear of" i dont thing people who disagree with lgbtq are "afraid" of it. Also, y'all dont likr when we try to tell you the word of God or smth? Kindergartens in public school are taught about lgbtq and how they "might not be a girl or a boy" i do not feel like 5-6 year olds should me dealing with that. Just because we dont applaude lgbtq, which in my case i wont, doesnt mean we are scared of y'all. I feel like if we tell you about God's word peacefully, y'all have a right to talk about your side. Neither side is allowed to force their beliefs on the other, and yes, some christians are being extreme with this, but some ppl that are lgbtq are forcing little kids to switch their God given genders, or saying that (say we're speaking to a girl) no, you don't like guys, you like girls. I hope i wasnt rude or mean, but i politely ask for people to stop saying homophobia when the majority of those not complacent with lgbtq are not scared of it
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by BobTheCat_
@Selah_Ross first off, i am on your side. I mean, i would probably say some things differently, but we mostly agree at the heart. Secondly, yes, homophobia does mean to be afraid of it, but i personally have only heard it in the context of hating/disliking homosexuality. I was using it in this context, and i apologize for not using the dictionary definition. update: googled it, this is what it said Homophobia is....... "irrational fear, hatred, discomfort, or mistrust of people who are lesbian, gay, or bisexual" we were both kinda right |
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by Selah_Ross
@BobTheCat_ I wasn't pointing the message at u, I was just wanting u to see it, and get your opinion
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1 month, 2 weeks ago by BobTheCat_
@Selah_Ross ahhh ok that makes a lot more sense!! Yes, i definitely agree with what you said, but i think it is important to realize that (according to my personal experiences) people that i know have been called homophobes are for hating homosexuality. I feel like homophobia is kind of like the word adventure; here's google: an unusual and exciting, typically hazardous, experience or activity. Buuuuut, no one really uses it for the first part. It nowadays means going on a trip or some exciting mission. This fits the definition but isn't all of it if that makes sense. |
